-perlite. Stimulatory effects occur on plants through PGRs, humic and other biostimulatory compounds present in compost teas. Most of the fertilizer will be washed out of the pot when you water so NPK ratio is not that important. Powered by, manure tea which is the same as compost tea, molasses to increase the microbe populations can significantly increase the population of salmonella. To get the most health benefits, avoid adding milk to your tea. So – what is your point?? Voila, oxygen! I’ve looked at a lot of data about compost teas. I am wondering if you have any evidence or hypothesis on the effectiveness of hot brewed bonemeal tea? Why would spreading 11 times as much be easier? I would disagree with the statement “Current knowledge suggests that compost teas work through a combination of chemical and biological mechanisms,”. Regular fertilization replaces them quite nicely. If you do a little research, you will find the most people recommend stirring your water as often as possible if you don’t have an air pump. Now it seems I’ve wasted money on all the ingredients for the tea?? Green tea contains less caffeine than coffee but enough to produce an effect. In case you didn’t know, too much organic manure can cause groundwater pollution. But compost tea does not contain more nutrients than the original compost. Leave clippings on the lawn. However, having read your post re planting by moon phase, I also think you are absolutely correct, except I doubt, as you claimed, that “true believers” (my emphasis) of moon phase planting had castrated you. Healthline Media does not provide medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Re: “some stuff is to big particle size to break down” – what does that mean? From the point of view of a gardener, the reader of this blog, spreading tea is not easier, nor is it more cost effective. Statements like “The positive root growth could be attributed to physicochemical and spectral characteristics, such as TN content, humic substances content, humification, aromaticity, and the low content of carboxyl groups.” clearly indicate the cause is not known and could also be anything else. You might google “Elaine Ingham” and listen to some of her discussion on soil biology. But once an effect is confirmed in the lab, you need to move it to the real world. You are correct it will add nutrients. He holds about a dozen world records for vegetable growing size as well as hundreds upon hundreds of ribbons and badges from garden expos. Some claim it is better at fighting disease. The phrase ‘ultimate tea’ is not found on the link you provided. Thank you for your time Robert, hope you’re well. Few take the time to understand the importance of feeding the tea but also not over-feeding–I don’t brew “fertilizer teas” but I do brew to help unlock and make accessible the nutrients in the soil or applied as powder/pellets. I would really like to see the evidence to prove compost tea works. The rates of type 2 diabetes are increasing in recent decades. Why not buy a finished fertilizer and save yourself the trouble of making the tea? Then again, I find compost tea a waste of time. Why not add the compost directly and feed the bacteria already in soil? If you have a healthy soil then it will naturally balance the bad bacteria. This is the type of claim made but where is the proof? Buying it as compost does not make sense. Farmers and gardeners will not be able to do this type of analysis even though Dr. Ingham makes such claims in her courses. After watering with the tea, the EC of my soil rises as the microbes break down my amendments. As a fellow iconoclast, you might also be interested in my past comments on permaculture (http://www.leereich.com/2010/09/looking-around-at-my-fruit-trees-and.html). The soil has lots of both of these and does not need more to be inoculated. Application of Two Microbial Teas Did Not Affect Collard or Spinach Yield: http: https://www.allotment-garden.org/comfrey/comfrey-compost-feed-tea/, https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00253-018-9119-x, https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-its-time-to-stop-punishing-our-soils-with-fertilizers-and-chemicals, https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fenvs.2018.00116/full, https://www.soilfoodweb.com.au/about-our-organisation/actively-aerated-compost-tea-information, https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=compost+tea&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=&oq=compost+t, http://www.aensiweb.net/AENSIWEB/rjabs/rjabs/2010/424-430.pdf, https://www.gardenmyths.com/soil-bacteria-myth-identification-managment/, https://www.gardenmyths.com/what-is-humus/, http://puyallup.wsu.edu/lcs/reference-compost-tea/, http://extension.oregonstate.edu/douglas/mg/dcmg/aerated-compost-tea, http://www.leereich.com/2010/07/has-your-garden-had-its-tea-this.html, http://www.leereich.com/2010/09/looking-around-at-my-fruit-trees-and.html, https://www.gardenmyths.com/what-is-organic-fertilizer/, https://www.gardenmyths.com/?s=tea&submit=Search. Agreed. Some controlled studies show that green tea may cause mild reductions in blood sugar levels. the labor costs of application also need to be considered.”. In a pot you may not have room to topdress anymore compost so by making a compost tea you can get some of the benefits of compost without increasing planter/pot volume. When I achieved my best results with organic gardening it was with compost tea applied every two to three weeks. -yucca I’ve got some veg top dress from kootney biological soils (boogie brew canada) Somehow, I think the author misses the point of compost teas in several key respects. Are you crazy? That being said, what in the world are you talking about in the quoted section above? The quantity of microbes in the tea may well be larger than the microbes in the compost – but nutrients are not increased. having more microbes in the tea will have limited effect once they are added to the soil. There is simply not enough nutrient potential to make a difference. They are now flourishing. Chemical Fertilizers are well known to kill or inhibit these beneficial bacteria. all of the following myths are discussed in the book. Curled leaves. All you need is a microscope that goes to at least x1000, which you can buy for about $100 these days. According to a review of 7 studies with a total of 286,701 individuals, tea drinkers had an 18% lower risk of diabetes (44). Why would making the tea cost less? Health Benefits. People who promote compost tea don’t know which microbes they have, and each batch could be different. See my latest post, Compost Tea NPK Values. My question is about bonemeal tea. Given that green tea can boost the metabolic rate in the short term, it makes sense that it could help you lose weight. Throat Comfort The enjoyment of tea warms the throat, which is often very strained. You will never convince the zealots, even with clear evidence. Dr. Elaine Ingham has been proving it for 30+ years. Their belief is that this is a long term benefit but increase the microbe population in soil. Many farmers doesn’t use manure not because of its purchasing cost, but because of its application costs. But nobody doubts that. Making tea can not increase the nutrient level over and above what was in the compost. Personally I like to leave adequate space so I can give a large amount of water to the plant before it overflows the container–I loathe watering someone’s garden when they fill their pots right to the brim. Personal observations from an experienced microbiologist is good enough for this farmer/gardener. Yeah my points are moot. Research has tested its ability to help treat various diseases. What makes this entire post invalid is his claim that compost tea does the same as a growing in Compost. some people are taking your “finished compost” and then making tea out of it. And let me be clear that I am only discussing nutrient here and not by any means attempting to show preference for soil management style or method…just discussing this one application method in isolation of the larger story. This process helps to balance PH and provide a much broader range of bio metabolism necessary for vibrant and more nutritional fruit. At present it seems the only benefit is from nutrients. I did want to point out one thing though. To get behind the science on tea and health, Douglas Balentine has offered some helpful insights. However, some studies don’t show a statistically significant increase in weight loss with green tea, so researchers need to perform further studies to confirm this effect (55). If you are trying to convince me that ACCT compost tea works – provide a scientific reference that compares tea to the same amount of compost added in a field condition. Those who use compost tea are mostly organic gardeners so why would you suggest fertilizer when compost tea is the perfect organic fertilizer. Green tea in particular is said to aid in weight loss. 2. I myself love drinking tea, along with my breakfast in the morning, it’s nice get some random micro-nutrients and diverse flavors in. The point of the article is that it is not worth making tea as a separate process – just use the compost. Egg-shells do not compost, so they sit in the soil for ever, adding few nutrients. I let it aerate with an air stone for 15-30 hours depending on when I remember to make it. Are you arguing that compost itself is bad? However… composting is very important as it does include organic matter while also supplying beneficial microflora. Less work and you get the same nutrients. I use simple plastic tubs with holes. 2) the plants were grown in “media based with coconut beat and peat moss”. An activated soil food-web is supposed to extract both, more nutriends from minerals and more nutrients from existing organic matter. -seabird guanos A lot of the articles found are not peer reviewed, test for very special cases, don’t do field studies etc. As these plants decompose the nutrients are made available to other plants. And if it’s a transient or a permanent change. “boost in biological activity ” – people say this, but there is no evidence that there is any biological boost. In my post “What is organic Fertilizer” https://www.gardenmyths.com/what-is-organic-fertilizer/ I discuss the fact that all of these are the same–from the plants point of view. I think that you are correct in that compost tea for the once-in-a-while gardener is a bad idea, and anaerobic compost tea is always a bad idea. Re:”you can be 100% assured that those will be the microbes in a well-aerated tea” – I don’t fully agree with this statement since not all microbes will grow well in water, but lets say it is true. What Are the Benefits of Lemon Tea? As for the traditional methods I don’t think they have much benefit for the reasons you already outlined I.e. It will separate. Would’ve never thought the use of it is that widespread in organic farming, it seems so pointless. Compost tea has shown potential for being an ideal beneficial product in any cropping system. -langbeinite But this happens in soil anyways even if you don’t add compost tea. -4 tablespoons of top dress Lab and greenhouse studies are surely necessary to help control for variables which may overwhelm the results. Once soil health is established and thriving compost tea is not necessary but can benefit plant health through foliar feeding or direct soil applications. If your composting at home a wet greener hotter compost pile is going to be bacterial dominant, a dryer slower leafyer pile is going to be fungally dominant. They multiply at an extremely high rate in aerated oxygenated water. It becomes and issue when people ascribe magical powers to it. After reading all the responses and people’s scientific theories, all that can be said is more research is needed. Green tea does more than just keep you alert, it may also help boost brain function. 1) All of the work was done in a lab or greenhouse setting. So it’s a straw man argument. Would they not be exactly the same? I prefer to not use sugar as it accelerates the process to much and causes it to spoil. All my Research that I have done is from books and experimentation. Besides most of the tea will soak into soil as soon as it comes in contact with it. They always made so much sense to me. Keep up the good work. drum, a shovel of garden soil, maybe some kelp, filled the rest of the drum with water, and allowed the mess to age from 6 months to a year, would this mixture applied as a tea be beneficial to lots of different plants? 53 They are also present in higher concentrations in whole leaves rather than in pieces and dust. On the whole, compost tea is too much work and too much can go wrong. Well, besides from the already explained multiplying effect (on certain strains) of an areated brew, I would never think about applying compost tea in a back-yard garden for precisely that same reason. This one has at least two problems. If it does not support them – adding them will not help. The microbes are pretty predictable if wormcast is used. You obviously researched the topic enough to know exactly what compost tea is supposed to do and that plants need much more than microbial life and nitrogen to live and prosper. You missed the point of the article. But could compost tea be a faster acting/faster release of nutrients since more of the organic matter area is covered by moisture and more of these can fill in the gaps in the soil? A lot of the things being said here make no sense to me…. Most soil microbes have not been identified – so why do you think a gardener could do this using a microscope? That means no one except some microbiologists should be making compost tea. What’s the best way to feed the plants during seedling/grow/flower? It is marginal but if you water a lot it can green up the growth. They are using it to INCREASE the nutrient value of their soil. I guess I’ll start with my view on the adding nutrients situation. That could be due to my awesome plant parenting too. How much decomposition do you get in a couple of days? I never said compost was not a good idea. So far there is no evidence that teas either from compost or from Bokashi are any better than using the material before making tea. I just wanted to say thanks for a counter argument against ACT, some of what you said I agree with and some of it I do not. Literally almost dead. what the plants need are nutrients and most people add them using fertilizer. This link has a number of links with research from Universities contradicting everything yoy say here. Several valid arguments up in here on this I like it! But adding a cup full on microbes to the soil will not fix these problems. Applying compost mulch to a lawn is a pain but tea is easy. Turkish Tea. You miss-read what I said. I did not see a reference to a published study that compared compost tea to compost, in a real field study. I agree with you. If your results are “solid as a rock” then report on them. “The Contrary Farmer” by Gene Logsdon, Since you seem to like internet sources so much, give this one a read: Comment #1 referred to the claim that compost tea has higher nutrients. An aereated compost tea fed with molases could be more or less the equivalent of that wastewater sludge: full of hungry bacteria, that attack the organic matter in the soil and thereby releasing the nutrient the O.M. My understanding of endo-phytic fungi also plays a role in this concoction, I also add some korean natural farming love, with my understaning of indigenous micro-organisms…IMO for short. Keep pouring compost tea every to your plants, give lots of it. Yes beneficial bacteria and fungi(mycorrhizae) exist in nature but the more you have the better your plants will produce. Tea is rich in polyphenols, which are natural compounds that have health benefits, such as reducing inflammation and helping to fight cancer. Fertiliser? However, water and oxygen speed this process, and a byproduct of this is additional microbes (which further the decomposition rates) there for feeding your plant yummy nutrients within days opposed to …. including the others micronutrients that the plant needs ? Please provide some references for using it in pots. We (ie scientists) don’t know which microbes are in the soil – there are thousands of species that have not been identified. Thanks for your response, with which I certainly agree. What I don’t understand is what is the big deal to you if someone wants to put compost tea on their garden. That is even easier. It is the microbes that decompose organic matter in the tea. -fish bone meal People tend to shop for the facts that best suit their wants. While the author states that soils are already full of microbes, many soils suffer from severe disruption of their microbial communities due to tillage, compaction, removal of crop residues, pesticides, and yes, even careless fertilizer use. It is also free. Current knowledge suggests that compost teas work through a combination of chemical and biological mechanisms, which have not been fully unravelled. The statement “Organic Vs Synthetic nutrients are completely different molecular structures bonded differently with different charges.” is completely false. When you make any kind of compost tea it should be to increase the microbe and fungi population and activity in the soil which ultimately provides essential nutrients for the plants. By definition, being associated with mature compost also minimises the potential for phytotoxic compounds and effects on crop health and soil quality. I completely disagree with nearly every point you’ve made. 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