Yes. Oh wait, do I hear the strains of no real Scotsman? Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. Then they were commanded to be baptized in the name of the Lord (Acts The trend shifting Baptist identity from its Anabaptist, free church tradition to a reformed evangelical identity. Baptist Concern over Church Problems. 3:17). with it. He can forsake the right way (2 Pet. As you can see, nothing has changed. Adherents to this position consider the influence of Anabaptists upon early Baptists to be minimal. It doesn't take a Solomon to see that these blessings are based upon what we do about them. 3:27); to be baptized is to get into Christ (Rom. "We believe that the salvation of sinners is WHOLLY of grace." Bagpipes, anyone? Baptists do not have a central governing authority, and Baptist beliefs are not completely consistent from one Baptist church to another. Because the Baptist Church is wrong about the matter. Of course, this same resolution reminded women that could only serve the church in “Biblically appropriate ways.” The resolution also reminded women that they were to submit themselves to their husbands as unto the Lord. He can fall from his steadfastness (2 Pet. He can become neither hot nor cold (Rev. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Complementarianism will continue to be the official doctrine of the Convention. Gigi, it is but by an accident of birth that you are, never mind a Baptist, but even a Christian. These issues have the potential to disrupt forward progress; frankly, they have already contributed to such disruption. Why, in the light of the foregoing would the Baptist Church come along and say baptism has nothing whatsoever to do with being believing. When they came 15:1-3). The Baptist Church perverts every thing the New Testament says in the these matters if we expect to go to heaven when we die. I’m Not Preaching Now, I’m Telling the Truth, Short Stories: The Preacher Goes to the XXX Movie House, Fundamentalist Pastor JD Hall Brags About Breaking the Law. government, but their doctrine of the church is widely different from ours. Baptist roots date back four centuries to a people seeking the opportunity to worship God as individual members of freely organized and freely functioning local churches. then sins washed away. word? Coarse language ahead! 6:2-4 God's way: Die to sin - Baptized - Arise to new life, Man's way: Die to sin - Arise to new life - Baptized, Gal. We shall reap if we faint not (Gal. won't be a Baptist. And of course, VP Pence shows up to give his stamp of approval. You have been warned. “…it’s about power and control.” AMEN from somewhere in the back…. If you are a first-time commenter, please read the commenting policy before wowing readers with your words. mention them. 12:15). by Charles W. Deweese. Yet they are described as people who believed (Acts 2:44; 4:32). saved? It's pretty much something that I used to mistaken Baptist preachers like John Macarthur and Paul Washer (who I pray will revive the Southern Baptist Convention soon) to be works salvation preachers, legalistic or whatsoever until I began reading through John Macarthur's book "The Gospel According to Jesus" … That’s the point, because one day Jesus will divide the sheep from the goats. We are saved by truth but some may err from the truth (Jas. remission. Others say salvation is by grace alone. 3:12). 10:47). Baptism Wouldn't it be good if people would be willing just to take what God's Yet again, the statement of Chillingworth, “The Bible, and the Bible alone, the religion of Protestants,” is widely different from the Baptist principle, “The New Testament, the only law of Christianity.” Then he is described You can do everything in the New Testament and you still That's right, the Bible doesn't mention the Baptist Church. Many passages could be cited to substantiate that fact. 15:1-2). Donations on a monthly basis can be made through Patreon. 2:1). If one should do all of these things would he still be saved? Some say one may be saved by praying. He can come short of the promise of God (Heb. The first Baptist Church in Jesus said teach and baptize the people (Matt. every time they are mentioned together. Understanding and Helping Those Who Live With Chronic Pain, Bruce, What’s Your View of the “Atheist Community?”, If God is Love, He Has a Funny Way of Showing It. Guardian of Truth XXVII: 4, pp. them because they "sought him not after the due order" (I Chron. It is easy to see that the love of God, the truth of God, the grace of God, the promise of God, and all the other things that enter into our He can depart from the faith (1 Tim. everlasting destruction. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Oh, yeah, and homosexuality is still bad too.”. I have long studied varieties of Calvinism—from mainline Reformed theologies to nearly cultic Calvinist theologies. 10:29). But history (even Baptist History) records that the first Baptist Church of record was formed by John Smythe, who 1.) I know individuals who believe in the gift of tongues and … We are disciples indeed if we continue in the word (John 8:31). We are saved by Lord but some may deny the Lord (2 Pet. . “We care about the women so let’s double down on our complementarian doctrine, remind women of their place, and remind men that having affairs is naughty. Hebrews 5:8-9 records that Christ, through His sufferings, became the author of salvation to all them that obey Him. He concluded that God had made the breach upon How can a church founded by the wrong man at the wrong place and at the wrong time bear any resemblance to the 5. Would God reverse the correct order every time it is mentioned in His If he did only one of these So don’t go feeling sorry for Bruce, nor anyone else who has thrown away the yoke that is religion, and replaced it with reason. The Baptist Church nullifies every thing the New Testament says about what we may do During the last several years, I have met Baptist preachers in public debate more than twenty-five times. And to all this I say, bullshit. 8:11). Yes, there are 15 million people on the church roll, but on any given Sunday over half of them are someplace other than a Southern Baptist Church. However, it was interesting to see that the Baptists continue to ignore a long standing problem within their own ranks while they address the problems inherent in the Mormon religion. You read ONE @&$@#% post before going all-Jesus on me. You cannot find, in the Bible, how to become a member of the The Baptist Church fails to take into consideration that salvation is conditional and depends upon The roots of Southern Baptist history go back to the Baptist churches established in the American colonies in the 17th century.By 1891, the SBC formed its own Sunday School Board, headquartered in Nashville, Tennessee. Bible. The Southern Baptist Convention tells us about the Baptist view of baptism: “Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I've encountered many times of Baptist and also visited some Baptist churches. Bruce Gerencser, 61, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 40 years. He can perish if he is weak (1 Cor. A “no” vote will tell everyone that the SBC doesn’t really want to know what’s going on in their churches; that is unless a church tries to ordain a woman or gay man. 12:13 God's way: By one Spirit - Baptized Into one body, Man's way: By one Spirit - Into one body - Baptized, Col. 2:12 God's way: Dead - Baptized - Risen with Him, Man's way: Dead - Risen with Christ Baptized, Matt. The Baptist tradition, along with other traditions of Christianity, acknowledges the existence of evil and the reality of human suffering. Actually, it would be difficult to put down the exact position of the Baptist Church Had you been born in Iran you would be worshipping Allah, just as convinced of your belief as you are in ‘this life’. BAPTISTS today number into the millions. You have to But about nine out of every ten Baptists, over 26,000,000, live in the United States. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)–Recently there’s been much discussion about the issue of tongues in Southern Baptist life. We are saved by HOPE, (Rom. The diminishing of the doctrine of autonomy and freedom of the local church under the leadership of the Holy Spirit. The The Baptist Church ignores every thing the Bible says about what a child of God can do. It’s ALWAYS about power and control – and always has been. Resolutions are akin to Nancy Reagan’s ‘Just Say No’ anti-drug-use campaign. He can deny the Lord that bought him (2 Pet. Cornelius were told that they had to fear God and work righteousness to be accepted with God. I feel like I know about as as a believer (Acts 16:30-34). The Missionary Baptist Church is a Protestant denomination with distinct beliefs about the identity of the church. 2:21). We are saved by enduring but some may not endure (Matt. PROBLEMS WITH THE DOCTRINE OF SOLA SCRIPTURA. concerning the final security of the believer. A “high view” of Scripture uses Scripture’s own self-description: inspired, and useful for teaching and correction (2 Timothy 3:16). Not only was the Baptist Church started by the wrong man at the wrong place and at the wrong time, but the plan of salvation espoused 3:14-18). The three passages cited are cases in point. This is because I participate in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com. If you have experienced the new birth , you would not be an atheist. Let conflict spring up in the church — Baptists love to fight — and all those non-attending “members” will be front and center to cast their vote on the issue at hand. Why is this important? about it. Read Bruce’s story. Acts 22:16 - "And now why tarriest thou? founded in A.D. 33. But he that believeth not shall be damned." 10:29). Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Jacob Dahlen, May 8, 2006. Baptist Church teaches a plan of salvation unknown to the word of God. Every bit as born again as you. I have decided to set forth some of the things I consider to be wrong with Mark 16:16 God's way: Believe - Baptize - Saved, Acts 2:38 God's way: Repent - Baptized - Remission, Rom. He can fall after the same example of unbelief (Heb. We shall never fall if we do these things (2 Pet. Church rejects every word the Bible says about being baptized. had been a clergyman in the Church of England, in 1607 (Benedict's History of The Baptists, p. 304). 28:19); Jesus said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved" (Mark 16:16); Today, in the United States alone, there are more than 50 Baptist groups or sub-groups. You have to go onward and abide not in the doctrine of Christ to find anything about the Baptist Church. And what effect with this resolution have? The “godly” messengers said “no.” That’s right, they said “no.” Eleven years later, this issue will be brought to the floor once again. salvation depend altogether upon what disposition we make of these blessings. Bruce, Did You Encourage Church Members to Think for Themselves? Baptism then salvation. Others say one is saved by faith without further acts of obedience. He can believe the gospel in vain (1 Cor. Messengers also passed a resolution emphasizing the dignity of women and lamenting how women have been treated in SBC churches. anger of the Lord was kindled against him and He smote him that he died. Donations are always appreciated. It cannot! Imagine Pastor I. LvJesus at First Baptist Church in Anywhere, Alabama hearing of this resolution and saying, Well, Sister B. Submissive, I guess we need to quit having sex in my office. with the things by which we are saved. We are saved by gospel but some may believe it in vain (1 Cor. Pr… We should be willing to take exactly what the Bible says about Copyright © 2020 The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser – Powered by Flywheel. Doctrine divides so that true unity can take place. 4:1). The Baptist Faith & Message of 2000, the denomination’s comprehensive confession of faith and doctrine, already asserts a form of “complementarianism” (men and women are equal but have different roles), but some strains of Calvinism go a step further. God was concerned that He be sought after the due order. Baptists disagree about everything; sometimes, that causes organizational rupture and the multiplication of new Baptist bodies. 3:17). The Philippian Jailor was told that he could be saved by You have been warned. In 1 Chronicles 13, 14, and 15 we have the incident of the moving of the ark of God from one place to another. Baptist Doctrine contradicts the Bible in fact. answer of a good conscious toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." When we look at the New Testament concerning baptism and salvation, we find that the due (divine) order is baptism then salvation 10:29). what we do about the matter. But further, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 records that those who do not obey the gospel will be punished with Word says? We are cleansed if we walk in the light (1 John 1:7). were baptized. they fail to recognize that salvation is conditional; and they fail to recognize what a child-of God can do. 3:6). 10:22). Let us notice these three things: We are saved by faith but some may depart from the faith (1 Tim. A person who has genuinely received salvation will produce good fruit. 5:15). Top Posters. But the Baptist Church comes along and decides that the divine order is The messengers have spoken! Amazon disclosure: Some pages on this site have links to products on Amazon.When you click through these links, I get a small commission from your purchase -- and you don't have to pay a bit more! Here’s the truth behind this statistic. In the end, it’s all about power and control. 1 Peter 3:21 - "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the 3:5); to be baptized is to put on Christ (Gal. . Baptist schools offer courses on Baptist identity. enough to be understood by all. I will reproduce the Scriptures that mention baptism and salvation (or its equivalent) together so New Testament Church? It will be interesting to see how serious SBC churches really are about predatory, criminal pastors in their midst. Coarse language ahead! The Southern Baptist Convention is holding its annual shindig this year in Dallas, Texas. On this subject the Baptist Church makes three fatal mistakes. Facing some persecution for their own belief in believer’s baptism, Baptists endured fines, harassment and sometimes jail time. In 2007, messengers were asked to approve establishing a national database of pastors, evangelists, missionaries, and other church leaders who have been accused and/or convicted of sexual abuse and other sex related crimes. Meet the conditions and you can't fail. (Titus 3:5); baptism puts one into the one body of Christ (1 Cor. One-time donations can be made through PayPal. The Baptist Church fails to take into consideration that salvation is conditional and depends upon what we do about the matter. In 2003, I pastored a small Southern Baptist church in Clare, Michigan. Baptism then salvation. 4. (Luke 7:29); people reject the counsel of God when they refuse to be baptized (Luke 7:30); to be baptized is to be born of water (John He can be spoiled through deceit (Col. 2:8). 15:13). and propagated by the Baptist Church is also wrong. remission of sins through faith (belief) in God (Acts 10:43). Ten thousand messengers (delegates) will fuss and fight with each other over doctrine, culture, and who should run the denomination’s institutions. the wrong man to be the New Testament Church. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. Arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." The nature of Baptist life feeds disagreement and diversity. Please share your thoughts in the comment section. 12:13); God operates on one in baptism (Col. 2:12); baptism is a I pray that you will have a relationship with JesusChrist and go to heaven. He can be cast forth as a branch and be burned (John 15:1-6). If he did part of these things would he be saved? But all Baptists deny that salvation comes through obedience to Christ, which puts them in 4:11). 15:2). The denomination also places special focus on fulfilling the Great Commission through missionary efforts. Tit 2:3-5 Therefore, the Baptist doctrine of ‘Women Deacons and Preachers’ is false doctrine. Conclusion: The challenge is in the court of all who preach, teach, and obey the false doctrine of the Baptist church. Once again we can see that the Bible is wrong every time it mentions these matters, or the Baptist Church is wrong every time they This view of Baptist origins has the most historical support and is the most widely accepted. David was concerned about the matter and began to consider what caused the tragedy. Aligning with Thomas Jefferson, early Baptists held strongly to a view that supported religious liberty. Modern Baptist churches trace their history to the English Separatist movement in the 1600s, the century after the rise of the original Protestant denominations. He can be led away with error of the wicked (2 Pet. These issues—speaking in tongues, not believing in eternal security, and an unwillingness to stand against moral sins—are significant issues. 6:3); baptism is a part of regeneration Bruce is a local photography business owner, operating Defiance County Photo out of his home. However, Baptists do hold some common beliefs among almost all Baptist churches. opposition to the Bible. Problems with inerrancy. We are saved by blood but some may count the blood unholy (Heb. Resolutions such as this one are feel-good measures; all the while at home, SBC pastors are “feeling good” too, but that’s because they are having oh-so awesome extramarital motel sex. 4:1). both ends. Thankfully, a renewed emphasis on Baptist doctrine, practice and heritage is underway. The increasingly Fundamentalist SBC will continue to treat women as second-class citizens. 28:19 God's way: Teach - Baptize - Teach, John 3:5 God's way: Water - Spirit - Enter kingdom, Man's way: Spirit - Enter kingdom Water (baptism), Titus 3:5 God's way: Saved us - Washing Renewing of Holy Ghost, Man's way: Saved us - Renewing of Holy Ghost -Washing, Rom. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, with over 15 million members, traces its history to 1845 when it broke off from Northern Baptists over slavery. He can depart from the living God (Heb. Isn’t there a saying that insanity is in doing the same things repeatedly and expecting different results? Baptist Church. baptism is for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38); baptism is to wash away sins (Acts 22:16); people justify God when they are baptized 6:17-18 God's way: In sins - Obeyed - Then free. It is because of this belief of separation and exclusivism that they teach that Christians should be as completely separate from the world as possible. carried the ark in a new cart. to a certain place, the oxen stumbled and the -ark was in danger of being thrown out of the cart; so Uzza put his hands on the ark. The trend toward Calvinism and mistrust of personal Christian experience. We are saved by God but some may depart from God (Heb. The Baptist Church misinterprets and misapplies every word the Bible says in their teaching Baptism then things would he still be saved? to meet them and you already have fallen! He and his wife have six grown children and twelve grandchildren. "Deadly Contrast" which I have drawn. Yes, doctrine does divide. They are wrong on When a church clings to the label of Non-Denominational it puts forward a front that it is unconcerned about doctrine. Resolutions will be offered up, and some will pass, and, happy as a seal with fish, Baptists will say, SEE, we took care of our sexual abuse problem; we changed how women will be treated in the future. They teach once in grace always in grace, or final security for the believer. 2:1). Once saved always saved proponents are so blind they don’t readily notice these conflicts! on becoming a child of God. 6. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination is blatantly pulling scripture out of context, misinterpreting it, and manipulating so that is supports this doctrine. this religious organization. The record says they We are saved by grace but some may fail of the grace of God (Heb. All first-time comments are moderated. 3:12). The Baptists had plenty to say about Mormonism, especially at the pastors' conference which … And as sure as the sun comes up in the morning, misogynistic pastors will continue to use the Bible to beat Baptist women into submission. Why? 6:9). For more information about Bruce, please read the About page. (Baptist Church Manual, Article IV of the Declaration of Faith, p. 47). 2:8-9, and a host of other verses attest to salvation by faith. 6:4); and baptism is a part of believing in Christ (Acts 19:1-5). If you live in Northwest Ohio and would like to hire Bruce, please email him. When a Bible-believing Baptist looks to Hillsong for ideas on relevancy and relatability, the Baptist is not looking to a church of like faith and practice. The Baptist Church nullifies every thing the New Testament says about what we may do with the things by which we are saved. 2:2-4; Luke 24:46-49; Zech. and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Salvation is by faith and it cannot be denied. 1:16; Acts 2), the Baptist Church was founded at the wrong place to be the New Testament Church. Thus, God has said He will save the obedient and will punish the disobedient. And (part of the Baptist Heritage in the 21st Century Pamphlet Series). thereof in the Bible. Bruce, You Are Blindly Following the Media. God had said many years earlier, that they should not touch any holy thing lest they die. The series coincides with “Baptist Doctrine Study” week within the Southern Baptist Convention. Baptism then remission. It had dozens of families on its membership roll who no longer attended the church. News sites routinely report that the Southern Baptist Convention has 15 million members. He can fail of the grace of God (Heb. If you would like to contact Bruce directly, please use the contact form to do so. We are holy if we continue in the faith (Col. 1:23). The only conclusion to be drawn here is that the Baptist Church is wrong in its approach to this matter. He heard the word and rendered obedience unto it, including being baptized the same hour of the night. The original Baptist Faith and Message described it as authoritative in matters of faith and practice. So it becomes a matter of whom we shall believe. Let me quote what the Bible says about your behavior:“ Spouting off before listening to the facts is both shameful and foolish.” Proverbs 18:13. ... We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless! So it took obedience to constitute the kind of believing that is indicated. Acts 2:38 - "Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. He can fall into condemnation (Jas. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. That number grows many times when one looks at Baptists worldwide. Until the SBC abandons complementarianism, women should not expect meaningful change, nor should they accept the bones the men who are running the show throw their way. Messengers passed a resolution condemning adulterous affairs by pastors. Nearly every country has at least a small Baptist community. 5:19). One of the five principles necessary for Christian belief, according to the Conference of Conservative Protestants that met in Niagara Falls in 1896, was the physical, bodily return of Jesus (the other four being biblical inerrancy, the virgin birth, the divinity of Jesus and substitutionary atonement). The Father will honor us if we serve Christ (John 12:26). 1:10). Answer: Landmark theology, or heritage theology, is the belief among some independent Baptist churches that only local, independent Baptist congregations can truly be called “churches” in the New Testament sense. 7. Fail The Problem with Calvinism is Fundamentalism. This is plain We are saved by promise but some may come short of it (Heb. Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. He can turn from the holy commandment (2 Pet. The Baptist Church does not seek God after the due (divine) order. wrong every time and that it should be salvation then baptism. Thank you for reading this post. 3:27 God's way: As many as - Baptized - Put on Christ, Man's way: As many as - Put on Christ Baptized, 1 Cor. Baptism then remission. The problem with this is that, while it may seem to be a subtle difference from the biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith, it is in fact a crucially important difference. Then, by God, their Baptist boners are at full attention, ready to screw anyone who dares to be anything but a conservative cisgender male who has sex in the missionary position. THAT went over well. They have a double standard and will teach or practice things which are convenient at the time, even if not consistent with their core beliefs! The first thing that strikes me when writing concerning the Baptist Church is that the Bible knows nothing about it and says nothing Bruce Gerencser, 63, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 42 years. 4:1). Ditto politicians and bureaucrats – left, right & center. Question: "What is Landmarkism? The people at the house of He can count the blood of the covenant unholy (Heb. Bruce, Are Your Wife and Children Atheists? Stick around and read a bit Gigi. 4:1). He can do despite unto the Spirit if grace (Heb. We are the Lord's house if we hold fast (Heb. That, of course, is the first thing wrong Good works are the inevitable result of salvation (Ephesians 2:10). Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Well-intentioned, perhaps, but illicit drug use continues unabated, and something tells me that SBC preachers with a mind to cheat on their wives will continue to do so. The Baptist Church ignores every thing the Bible says about what a child of God can do. we may see what the "divine order" really is: Mark 1:4 - "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Thus the unmistakable divine order is baptism then salvation. 8:24), and Peter said BAPTISM saves us, (1 Peter 3:21). But the word "faith" is a comprehensive term many times when used in the Indeed, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) stands out as a large, old American denomination that is not in demographic collapse — at least … Baptists always have maintained the need for autonomous congregations, responsible for articulating their own doctrine… transgress the doctrine of Christ to find out how to become a member of the Baptist Church. (1 Cor. The people on the Day of Pentecost heard the word preached, believed it, repented and since the first Baptist Church was founded in 1607 it was founded at the wrong time to be the New Testament church since it was He can be moved away from the hope (Col. 1:23). I can see that you were a member of the Baptist Church but not a born again Christian. We are saved by love but some may not keep in the love (Jude 21). Luke 3:3 - "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." The Baptist Church Is Unknown To The Word Of God. The Southern Baptist Convention is holding its annual shindig this year in Dallas, Texas. The Holy Spirit is no match for sexual desire, especially with sex that has a bit of danger attached. And of course, since the New Testament Church was to be built in Jerusalem, (Isa. The Lordship controversy and misrepresenting the Lordship preachers. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. We are saved by hope but some may be moved away from the hope (Col. 1:23). In 1994, the Baptist General Convention of Texas established the Baptist Distinctives Committee and Texas Baptist Heritage Center to provide information and inspiration about Baptist beliefs and polity. He can turn aside after Satan (1 Tim. 114-116February 17, 1983. command (Acts 10:48); we are baptized so as to walk a new life (Rom. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding. 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